Zogam Today Exclusive Interview
As violence continues in Manipur, the name of the Kuki-Zo people has spread far and wide.
In a
candid conversation with our Joint Editor, Shaikh Abid Hasan shared that he
will continue to stand with the Kuki-Zo people and fight for justice until it
is served.
Here’s how the conversation went:
Can you introduce yourself and your
work as a social activist?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: I am a social as well as media activist since 2012.
But now I am a politician. I represented Indian Secular Front and Sanjukta
Morcha in the 2021 WB elections. I have been part of We
Dravidians, Bengali Academia for Social Empowerment, Anti CAA-NRC Mancha, SC-ST-OBC
Adhikar Mancha. I am the co-founder of Bastar Solidarity Chapter Kolkata
and DYNT
(Democratize Your Nation Today) on YouTube. We have three channels—DYNTLAND,
DYNT Bangla, and DYNT News. I have been instrumental in ensuring OBC
reservation continues in West Bengal in PSC and PhD allocation. One of my
achievements is stopping exams from being scheduled during the two Eid holidays
in West Bengal and ensuring the declaration of a two-day Eid holiday.
What inspired you to become a social
activist?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: My father was very instrumental in making me
politically literate. My late Mejo Kaka was a CPIM panchayat member. I have
always been around politics. This is my calling. Later, when I read the Qur’an
in my adult life, I got direction to fight for the majloom irrespective
of community against the zalim.
How did you first learn about the
struggles of the Kuki-Zo community?
Shaikh Abid Hasan:: I first
learnt about the Kuki community when I learned about Subhas Chandra Bose in
school on the internet. Later, out of curiosity, I started researching Manipur
after 2014 and got to know about them.
Why do you stand in solidarity with
the Kuki-Zo people?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: I stand in solidarity with them because, as a Bengali
nationalist, I have incurred a debt to my ancestors who were fighting for
independence. This is historic solidarity forged during World War II. I am
forever in service of the Kuki-Zo people, who helped Subhas Chandra Bose in
freeing India. When no Indian inside India was supporting Bose, the Kuki, Mizo,
Chin, and Lushai did.
Have you faced any challenges for
supporting the Kuki-Zo community?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: Yes, the biggest challenge has been communication. I
have been fighting Hindu nationalism since 2013, so throwing my weight behind
the Kuki-Zo was not difficult, considering the catastrophic events in Imphal on
3/4/5 May 2023. Getting trolled, abused, and threatened with legal cases is not
an issue. But it has been hard to activate mainland Indians as they are still
quite ignorant.
In what ways have you shown support
to the Kuki-Zo people?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: I have given them political advice, media strategy,
education, invited them on podcasts, tried to streamline their resistance, and
helped in forecasting. I have advocated for them across platforms and political
parties. I represented Global Citizens For Kuki-Zo in
Mizoram, where I met MZP, YMA, MNF, ZPM, and CM Lalduhoma. I discussed the
idea of Greater Mizoram with Chief Minister Lalduhoma. He was very impressed
that an outsider was aware of the concept. The Kuki-Zo people must actively
engage with the Indian political system and lead the fight against Hindu ethnic
democracy. It is now in their best interest to work towards changing the
BJP-led government at the Centre and in all states to ensure India remains
secular. When the Home Minister doesn’t want to control Kuki UT from Delhi
using central forces, the demand for separate administration becomes an acid
test of secularism for Hindu-majority India.
How do you think other communities
can stand in solidarity with them?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: Other communities, barring Mizos, have not been able
to express the kind of solidarity we expect. This is a problem of doing
politics in a non-Hindi market.
Have you worked with other activists
or organisations for this cause?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: I have only worked with Global Citizens For Kuki-Zo
for this cause.
What kind of response do you get
from your own community regarding your support for the Kuki-Zos?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: In both Bengali Hindu and Bengali Muslim spaces,
there is considerable interest. One of my allies, Dr. Prasenjit Biswas, was
already a great friend of Kuki-Zo before I even spoke. My party, the Indian
Secular Front, led a rally to Manipur House in Kolkata. ISF MLA Nawsad
Siddiqui has given many statements. We have done a press briefing as
well. A female activist of mine from the Bengali nationalist space, Debaroti,
has intervened for the Kuki-Zo in Bengali media.
Shaikh Abid Hasan: The idea of interfaith unity is not the right way to look at this issue because Hinduism does not have the power to bring justice to the oppressed. All victims of Hindu nationalism must come together against the idea of “Hindi-Hindu-Hindustan”. This fight is bigger than religion. We are living under a system that favours Hindus. In this situation, we are like the Palestinians, Yezidis, and Kurds who face attacks from powerful groups. Zionism, Bangladeshi Nationalism, Hindu Nationalism, and Buddhist Nationalism are all forms of racism or Brahmanism.
Shaikh Abid Hasan: This government will not resolve this issue. The RSS taught the Meiteis to rape and kill Kuki-Zo people, just as they did during the massacre of Pangals (Muslims) in 1993, which also began on May 3.
Shaikh Abid Hasan: I don’t see this as a question of fairness. We are not living in a secular India anymore. Modi is the “Hindu Hriday Samrat”—he puts his Hindu identity first. Their goal is to take away the lands of Christians and Muslims and force women from our communities into exploitation—just like what happened to Jews in Germany. Caste Hindus believe they have a right to our land and our women. That’s why they raped Bilkis Bano and Kuki-Zo women. The politics of Assam, Meiteis, Hindus, and even Pakistan are the same—we have seen how Pakistan and Assam treated women in history.
Shaikh Abid Hasan: Clearly, the Brahmin-Bania power structure in India will benefit the most. The Waqf Bill was not made to return Muslim lands to Muslims. Instead, it gives the district collector the power to decide who is a Muslim. Non-Muslims will sit in tribunals and decide on Muslim matters. This is nothing but another tool for state control over Muslim properties.
Shaikh Abid Hasan: This is all part of Hindu nationalism. Sometimes, Hindi-speaking Hindus carry out these attacks. Other times, it is local Hindus who justify violence using Sanamahism. We have already seen how Meitei Christians were forced to return to Hinduism through “Ghar Wapsi”. Now, the victims include Pangals, Nagas, Kuki-Zo people, Bengalis in Jiribam, and other tribal Christians.
Heinrich Himmler used the Bhagavad Gita and Mahabharata to justify the genocide of Jews. Caste discrimination against Dalits, Tribals, and Bahujans comes from Hindu teachings. In the name of Hinduism, Modi was responsible for two major riots—the Gujarat riots of 2002 and the Muzaffarnagar riots before the 2014 elections. It is not difficult to see the same pattern in the Delhi riots and the violence against the Kuki-Zo people in Imphal. Attacks on churches today are a continuation of the BJP’s policies, which were seen earlier during the Kandhamal riots.
Shaikh Abid Hasan: India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh were built on the suffering of women. Women in the Global South have always been brutalised by the state. If you are a religious, ethnic, linguistic, caste minority—and a woman—then the state will crush your rights. Now, Kuki-Zo women must channel their inner Phoolan Devi. They must force the Modi government to ensure justice. They must challenge Draupadi Murmu and ask what kind of a woman president she is if she remains silent on this.
Shaikh Abid Hasan: The government wants peace only because their experiment has failed. They could have easily created a Union Territory with a Legislative Assembly or Greater Mizoram and let corporations buy land from Kuki-Zo people. But their policies are Hindu-oriented. So they want to satisfy Meitei lust for Hills. Instead of solving the issue fairly, they are appeasing Meitei greed for the hills. They want to create another Deucha Pachami or Bastar in Manipur—where indigenous people lose their land to corporate and state interests.
- Resigned from the BJP as a sign of protest.
- Held a large protest in Delhi, even something symbolic like a naked parade, to draw national and international attention.
- Started a fast unto death or a Shaheen
Bagh-style protest, making their voices heard.
However, those within the BJP appear to prioritize the party over their community. They have not shown the courage to stand up for their people.
Do you have any suggestions for Kuki-Zo leaders?
Do you think the media is fairly covering the issues faced by the Kuki-Zos?
Have you faced any backlash for speaking out on this issue?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: Yes. My Twitter profile and YouTube Channel have been
shadow-banned. Meitei BJP and Hindutva Trolls have tagged NIA and CBI on my
voice recordings to harass me.
Why are the Meitei people so skilled at creating and spreading
fake news, photos, and videos on social media?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: They have been trained by their middle class,
especially those working in corporate jobs and the government, as well as by
the BJP. Their propaganda methods follow the Hindutva playbook. In the past,
when they were separatists, China trained them. Now, India’s intelligence
agencies (IB and R&AW) and the RSS are training them.
What is Himanta Biswa Sarma’s role in Biren Singh’s
political career?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: Himanta Biswa Sarma is like a mentor to Biren Singh.
He helped him leave the Congress party in 2016 and made sure he became the
Chief Minister of Manipur. During the recent conflict, Sarma quietly supported
Biren and avoided saying anything that could make him look bad. Both of them
share the same anti-Christian agenda in India.
How can young people contribute to raising awareness?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: Young Kuki Zo have to dislodge their leaders and
MLAs. Politics is now a young person’s game. As Dr. Seilen Haokip said, it
might take two decades. Young people have time on their side. By the time India
decides to give Separate Administration (SA), they will be abreast with
everything. Besides, new media requires young, smart people who are
street-savvy.
What do you hope to see in the future for the Kuki-Zo people?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: I hope to see political, legal, and constitutional
awareness in Kuki Zo. Seeking justice alone won’t work. They have to create
cultural capital.
What steps should be taken to promote peace and harmony in Manipur?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: Peace and harmony cannot be revived in Manipur
without dismantling Manipur into three UTs or one Imphal UT, Greater Mizoram,
and Greater Nagaland under the Indian Constitution.
How can different
communities work together for justice and reconciliation?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: They need
to create a common organisation, share ideas, and resources. Peace and
reconciliation can only come after Meiteis reform themselves. They need
salvation from the evil RSS.
If you were given the chance to be the Prime Minister, Home
Minister, or Chief Minister of Manipur, what would be the first thing you would
do to solve this crisis?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: Wrong question. They are responsible for this mess.
They don’t want to solve it. Amit Shah has said, “No Kuki UT (No Union
Territory for Kuki)”. Without changing the government at the Centre, Kuki Zo
will not get Separate Administration. They should go on tour and educate people
against BJP.
Do you have any message for people who are hesitant to support this
cause?
Shaikh Abid Hasan: If you are hesitant, no problem. Give the resources
to us and support us. They can engage in a silent movement within—a whisper
campaign.
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